Uhura all the way. I wouldn’t be surprised if that little ‘talk’ came up during the show because she wants to be in the movie. Nevertheless, she would amke a great Uhura.
Knowing how close minded some people on this website are (Jost T) it’s probably a good idea she didn’t mention which Trek series she was a fan of because she would get dissed bad on this website.
Put Rosario Dawson into a red Starfleet unform and place her at the Communications Station on the Enterprise bridge immediately! She’d make a fantastic Uhura. I’ve thought so for years. I even did a photo-manipulation of her in the role. If I can find it, I’ll find a way to post it here. Anyone have any suggestions where I can post it so I can provide a link to it here?
stallion wtf? there is no need to attack or pre attack other posters. I am sure she likes the later shows…just like me and most of us here. just cause some posters like only one show (be it TOS or TNG) that doesnt mean everyone does.
I know all the contributors and the owner of this site are fans of Trek old and new.
Years ago I remember reading a story about a group of people in California that had started a “Klingon Commune”. Supposedly they would only speak and write Klingon while living in this commune, and they were required to be in full make-up and costume when outside. I wonder if any of that was true?
Talk about Star Trek fanatics that have gone waaay over the edge!!
It’s cool Anthony, what some consider “close-Mindedness” I consider carefully considered preference.
Btw, did anyone else notice this interview didn’t go over so well and seemed awkward? The audience was fairly silent, crickets chirping even.
That doesn’t bode well for the perception a general audience has of Trek anymore.
Posted by Josh T. (The Phantom Shatners Leotards) Kirk Esquire' | April 9, 2007, 1:53 am
Perhaps its just me but I don’t think she have the universal (accepted) looks needed for Uhura. However she does have a well rounded and good attitude now doesn’t she? Yes….I could see her as a 1/2 Vulcan - Human where you’d she her human side shining through - even in odd situations where she might serve as a comic foil - now….wouldn’t that be different for Star Trek and real first in the series…..just a idea mind you.
…yeah, the Trek references and humor went over like a lead balloon. Let’s hope JJ can make Trek fun, put the cool factor back into Trek and get the public interested again.
Any great episode that was done on Battlestar Galactica was done three years ago on Star Trek? Let me think about this statement…. Okay, so Star Trek did episodes about suicide bombers, the occupation of Iraq, what happens to collaborators–a main character on Star Trek would never send young men and women out as suicide bombers, nor would a Star Trek character execute another character because he thought that character was collaborating with the “enemy”. Star trek is too sanitized. Sorry fanboys and fangirls, but Battlestar Galactica is superior to Star Trek in every way. It takes risks. It has balls, great writing and great acting.
The REAL Adama is dead! Battlestar Galactica died with him, IMO. The new one is ok, if you like a soap opera in space. I often do, but not to the extent that this has become.
You obviously don’t like good writing, Jim J. Battlestar won a Peabody Award for crying out loud. When did Star Trek ever win one? Oh, I remember: Never.
Battlestar is far superior to Star Trek and this is coming from a big fan of Star Trek - i don’t think i could have worded anything better than what Adama said about BSG other than that i agree with all of it! BSG does have balls, Star Trek does not - it is too clinical and clean cut - no one does any wrong - BORING!!!!!!!! lets hope this next trek has balls and guts and for god sake humans with feelings and flaws!
the new Galactica was a dog(Was, because it’s cancelled)it never took off because it spent too much time biting it’s own ass. What a wasted property.No villainous Baltar ,just a wormey sad loser.No real Cylons or Cylon empire,no mechanised threat.Just some sad recirculating story about a sexually needey wormey Baltar.Yeech.I had to spray my TV with Lysol.
#29 - What planet are you on? Battlestar was renewed for a 4th season. It’s not cancelled. And if you want the old Sci Fi cliched mechanized threat go watch the Terminator movies. Battlestar is far more thoughtful. You have no idea what you are talking about.
To #28 - I stand corrected. You are right. However, Star Trek TNG won for the first season episode “The Big Goodbye” while Battlestar won as an entire series.. from the Peabody website:
Year: 2005
Title: Battlestar Galactica (SCI FI)
Battlestar Galactica is not just another apocalyptic vision of the future but an intense drama that poses provocative questions regarding religion, politics, sex and what it truly means to be “human.” The saga is set in motion when Cylon robots revolt against their creators with a devastating series of nuclear attacks. What`s left of the human race, fewer than 50,000 refugees, roam the universe in a fleet led by the spacecraft Galactica. They must re-imagine their society even as they search for a new home. This dramatic premise, coupled with the threat from a new form of humanoid Cylons, affords diverse narrative and philosophical possibilities. Writers Ronald D. Moore, Toni Graphia, David Weddle, Bradley Thompson, Carla Robinson, Jeff Vlaming, Michael Angeli, and David Eick take full advantage to give us plotlines that are deeply personal and relatable, while never compromising their affinity and passion for science fiction. Moore, Graphia, and Eick are the executive producers. Harvey Frand is the producer. Directors Michael Rymer, Marita Grabiak, Allan Kroeker, Rod Hardy, Sergio Mimica-Gezzan, Robert Young, Brad Turner, Edward James Olmos, Jeff Woolnough, and Jonas Pate dazzle us, giving us a show that captivates on multiple levels. The cast includes Olmos, Mary McDonnell, Katee Sackhoff, Jamie Bamber, James Callis, Tricia Helfer, and Grace Park. For pushing the limits of science fiction and making it accessible to all, Battlestar Galactica receives a Peabody Award.
Year: 1987
Title: Star Trek: The Next Generation - The Big Good-Bye
Battlestar Whinica.A strung-out Baltar(supposedly the chief villian) wanders aimlessly through meandering storyline after storyline in search of his blonde muse as cameras shakily record his circular progress..boring,not entertaining,gave up on it
# 30: He was obviously referring to the ORIGINAL Battlestar Galatica not the cut and dry version of today. Though in all honesty the original was way too sappy for its own good it did have some good spots that the new one doesn’t.
Too bad they can’t (won’t) incorporate both the winning elements of both versions into a better show - the old show had flash and heart yet was brought down because it was repetitive - medicore and sappy a lot of the time. Bring the best of both versions together to make it that much better.
Too sanitized….no, but Kirk and crew, (especially Spock) vigorously wash behind their ears each and every day. And that’s good advice for you, too, mister!
The whole “flawed hero” thing does not interest me. What is wrong with having virtuous heroes to aspire to?
And what is wrong with bolting down the camera and focusing on something for more than one second…or using some light occasionally?
29. J L - April 9, 2007
“the new Galactica was a dog(Was, because it’s cancelled)…”
Again: Get your facts straight. The 4th season starts shooting in May.
Your facts are clearly wrong, and since you haven’t watched the show in a while (did it made you think too much and hurt your little brain?) you have no basis whatsoever to pass judgement on it. Have you seen the third season? Did you bother to watch the episodes: Occupation, Precipice, Exodus parts 1 and 2, Collaborators, Torn… Come talk to me after you haved watched these.
#39 - Don’t talk to me about silly, ObiWan - besides, there are 12 human-looking Cylon models… that means not EVERYONE is a Cylon. Do the math.
#38 J L The fact that you have resorted to name calling instead of intelligent discourse further erodes your credibilty as someone who has an opinion worth listening to. Grow up.
Wow, look at the mess I caused. I seem to b good at that lately, unintentionally. Yikes, sorry about that! I was juust stating that I liked the original better. As much as I like E.J. Olmos (best actor in the show), I still liked Lorne Greene better. As much as I enjoyed new fangled Galactica when it first came out, it has just gotten too weird for me.
Frankly, a lot of NEW Galactica people who have been fans have been telling me that this season has been a disappointment, overall. Many are starting to tire of it all. Old Galactica never had a chance because even though the ratings were decent, it just cost ABC too much.
I never said anywhere that new Galactica didn’t have good writing or was a lame show. All I said was that it had become too much of a “soap opera in space” for ME. Does that automatically mean the writing is bad or that it isn’t worth watching???? No, it just means that for my personal taste-it’s getting to be too much.
One thing that bugs me about these new Galactica fans, you are practically rabid if anyone even makes a passing comment that you think might be the least bit negative about the show. I didn’t say, “You obviously don’t like good writing, or, Star Trek does have balls, new Galactica does not .” I say a tiny thing about Adama and Galactica and people come unglued and start ripping Trek, on a Trek site.
#40 - In other words, you don’t like to be challenged. You prefer Superman, the square jawed hero who is does nothing wrong and is perfect in everyway (yawn….) than Batman the hero who has depth and is interesting… Well, that’s your prerogative. Thank you for having a civil discourse with me unlike other’s on this site. Have a good day.
I apologize to everyone, if R. Dawson likes both, good for her. I do, too. I just haven’t been able to get into the direction Galactica has gone lately. Just an opinion, not mean tto make people name call and get into the “my dad can beat up your dad” debate!
I’ve always thought Rosario Dawson kicked ass as an actress (25th Hour esp). She’s hotness and way cool all wrapped up into one. But to actually hear her say that she watches Star Trek is like the icing on the cake.
Ahhh hell… there’s a Trek/Battlestar bar fight goin on! Rosario Dawson was hot on MIB II and would be out of this world in the trek movie as either Uhura or for alternate casting of Nurse Chapel.
As for Battlestar vs trek. Battlestar is beyond verse in greatness and in no way can be compared to a soap opera or star trek. While Battlestar is a great drama that takes place in outerspace, there is very little true sci fi writing in the show. Trek on the other hand had much-much better sci-fi writing, but the drama was weak. The characters were to sterile to be believable. DS9 came the closest to introducing dualities to its characters or even a sense of desperation.
Trek & Battlestar are both necessary viewing, but for different reasons and the shows can be in no way compared. However, TOS needs to be re-imagined and relaunched for TV with the original characters. Taking a few lessons from Battlestar would make these new adventures for Kirk and crew a stellar event for sure. Sci-fi channel… are you listening… because yours is the only network that could bring back trek in the proper way.
I sense a conspiracy in the original shows of Star Trek and Battlestar Galactica. The star of each show was William Shatner and Lorne Greene, both Canadian and each wearing a “rug” at the time of the initial broadcast. Now, years later, Shatner wears a much better “piece” and what of Greene? Oh yeah, he’s dead Jim! Somebody dig him up and see what he’s got adorning his dome! If it looks good, then the conspiracy continues! Coincidence? I think not!! Bwahahahaha…….
Rosario or Beyonce as Uhura would do nicely for me!
ZtoA-Agreed, drama is a better word. Galactica is a drama with SciFi elements and Trek is SciFi with drama elements. I still think Trek does better SciFi and Galactica does better drama, IMO!
# 24. All the things you mentioned on BSG, to include suiside bombing and executing colaberaters was in fact done on Star Trek. The best trek of all in fact. DS9. There was a great episode were Odo investigates a murder case he never solved only to discover that the murderer was in fact Maj. Kira. who was not prosacuted because her govermnent at the time ordered her to kill one of her own people for colaberating with the cardasians. So yes. Trek did it first.
#58, 59 “Uhura…she was finefinefine”
Hey, whatever floats your boat! Arguing over whether Uhura was fine is a fine point indeed! To each their own. All I know is that if I were shipwrecked on a desert island, and could pick my companion, Rosario Dawson is looking MIGHTY FINE to me! It’s all subjective isn’t it?
56 - I’m seeing Uhura as twins. Beyonce AND Rosario. (Maybe they’re twins like I, Mudd… or maybe they’re twins like Georgia of the Jungle. Who cares… it’s twice the Uhura!)
I personally love both series, btw. I really don’t see why this universe ain’t big enough fer the both of em. For the BSG fans, don’t miss the gag reel on Geekmonthly.com. (Another shout out, Anthony!) It’s one of the funniest I’ve ever seen. Meanwhile, when are we gonna get some serious comparisons between Trek and Time Tunnel?
I don’t think it would be a waste to cast Rosario as Uhura. The stories don’t have to be written around Shatner-Nimoy-Kelley anymore. For all we know, Uhura could be a main character in this movie. This movie could be about how she got pulled out of a nasty situation by Lieutenant Kirk who inspired her to enroll in starfleet. Written the right way this could be a strong element in a script. You can build lots of action such a premise. Most movie these days are built around less.
Posted by Never know what to write here since we obviously won't write our names | April 9, 2007, 12:28 pm
Firefly is better than all. Battlestar and Trek included.
#64 “Lieutenant Kirk who inspired (Uhura) to enroll in starfleet”
Yeah, and have the conversation take place after rolling around in the sack together! “Hailing frequencies…uh…uh…OPEN, sir!!”
I think the second word she said was- PUCHPA E’ (POOCHPAH EH’). Which means restroom. Not sure though… If she said that word, that is indeed what it means. Hope this helps.
I would be OK with Rosario Dawson but not Beyonce as Uhura. I’m not too fond of Actors starting out as singers. I can say the same with actors trying out the transition as singers. Their are a allot of celebrities that want to be in Star Trek because they are fans. Fans like us. For them it really is a dream which is more possible. . The Interview didn’t say she will be or wont be involved in the new movie. Not much of a news break but their are a lot of celebrities as fans.
Tell you truth I consider each series including Trek separate. I let them live. lol. The constincy has not been pretty much there anyway. Admittedly to various degrees yes. Their are episodes of each show i will watch. Some I will never watch again In my opinion I like Star Trek (TOS) more. I don’t consider myself a rabid fan of other Sci Fi shows but I do enjoy them. I go in spurts with whatever show.. Its just entertainment.
How many shows over the decades have been trumpeted as the new one that bests Star Trek? I remember all this hype starting way back with “Space 1999″ leaving Trek in the dust.
In a few years BSG, like Space 1999, etc, will be just another trivia question. Let the BSG fans have their say. They should enjoy their 15 minutes of fame.
Star Trek exists, has existed, on its own plane. It is not sanitized; it gives us something to aspire to. It points the way. And that is why it endures.
First, Mira Sorvino revealed herself to be a knowledgeable Trekkie on the Conan O’Brien Show… now Rosario Dawson! Bring on the rest of the beautiful female Trekkies!
Gary Seven (#74): I’ve included the various forms of the work “frak” in my vocabulary since the ORIGINAL Battlestar Galactica was on first-run network television, which was almost 30 years ago. That seems pretty close to 40 years to me.
Excuse me for the lateness of this one. Whilst there is nothing wrong with having virtuous heroes to aspire to it can make for quite facile characterisation, and a much weaker hero. Consider the bucket of awesome that is Wrath of Khan, and its portrayal of Kirk versus Khan. Particularly how Nicholas Meyer wrote Kirk, (cited in Memory-Alpha’s article on STII).
“Initially, producer Harve Bennett was resistant to the idea that Kirk could do anything ‘bad’, yet Meyer won him over; in fact, he believed the story needed Kirk to have flaws. “There’s a distinction to be made between heroes and gods,” he explained, “which I think we sometimes get confused about. […] let me explain my theory of heroism. If a man jumps into a raging torrent to save a drowning child, he performs an heroic act. If the same man jumps into the same torrent to save the same child, but does so with a ball and chain attached to his leg, he’s not less heroic; he’s more heroic. “If you look at the heroes of antiquity and myth, they all have flaws. It’s something that they have to overcome; their flaws are something that they have to act in spite of. The challenge is not to defy your fate, but to endure it. That is heroic.”
Furthermore, to the people who say that BSG will be a distant memory in a few years - i say you’re exactly right. Look at Buffy, has quite faded out of most people’s conversations. Star Trek endures, but BSG is the better series for right now - it lives, and it gets ratings that have been comparable to the death throes of Enterprise, despite being on cable, and equal to or better than Enterprise in syndication. What is undeniable is that Star Trek endures, but you can only dispute the fact that it is fandom, and nostalgia, as much as quality that keeps it viable. In its recent incarnations - Voyager, Enterprise it was out of touch with the times, and the general public and i gather many of us who come to this site thought it stank. Kirk and company live forever, but BSG lives right now, and it shines very brightly.
it would be awesome if Rosario Dawson was in Star Trek….but I dont really think she looks like Uhura. Uhura’s face was heart shaped but Rosario has an angular face which is also longer. Personally, I think Rosario is too good looking to be Uhura.
Quick! Someone call JJ Abrams!
FIRST!
She should be Uhura for sure!
I could definitely see her as a Vulcan.
Yeah she’s right…my glasses exploded…well they would if I had them.
I love Rosario Dawson - and now, even more.
Think I’m in love too.
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Uhura all the way. I wouldn’t be surprised if that little ‘talk’ came up during the show because she wants to be in the movie. Nevertheless, she would amke a great Uhura.
Knowing how close minded some people on this website are (Jost T) it’s probably a good idea she didn’t mention which Trek series she was a fan of because she would get dissed bad on this website.
Put Rosario Dawson into a red Starfleet unform and place her at the Communications Station on the Enterprise bridge immediately! She’d make a fantastic Uhura. I’ve thought so for years. I even did a photo-manipulation of her in the role. If I can find it, I’ll find a way to post it here. Anyone have any suggestions where I can post it so I can provide a link to it here?
stallion wtf? there is no need to attack or pre attack other posters. I am sure she likes the later shows…just like me and most of us here. just cause some posters like only one show (be it TOS or TNG) that doesnt mean everyone does.
I know all the contributors and the owner of this site are fans of Trek old and new.
#11 — post it at www.flickr.com
Funny interview!
Years ago I remember reading a story about a group of people in California that had started a “Klingon Commune”. Supposedly they would only speak and write Klingon while living in this commune, and they were required to be in full make-up and costume when outside. I wonder if any of that was true?
Talk about Star Trek fanatics that have gone waaay over the edge!!
Mike
Had her mixed up with Roxanne Dawson and thought she had been in Trek, just I didn’t recognise her without the headbumps
Hotness!
Good grief.
So what does that second word mean?
It’s cool Anthony, what some consider “close-Mindedness” I consider carefully considered preference.
Btw, did anyone else notice this interview didn’t go over so well and seemed awkward? The audience was fairly silent, crickets chirping even.
That doesn’t bode well for the perception a general audience has of Trek anymore.
Perhaps its just me but I don’t think she have the universal (accepted) looks needed for Uhura. However she does have a well rounded and good attitude now doesn’t she? Yes….I could see her as a 1/2 Vulcan - Human where you’d she her human side shining through - even in odd situations where she might serve as a comic foil - now….wouldn’t that be different for Star Trek and real first in the series…..just a idea mind you.
#19: I think the audience was quiet because they where hypnotized by her stunning beauty. I’m sure thats all it was.
I think she has the right look for Uhura. Fanboys love her from Clerks 2 and Grindhouse. She is money in the bank.
Rosario Dawson I would pay to see read the phone book for two hours and still come away happy…
…Get your minds out’ve the gutters!
…yeah, the Trek references and humor went over like a lead balloon. Let’s hope JJ can make Trek fun, put the cool factor back into Trek and get the public interested again.
Any great episode that was done on Battlestar Galactica was done three years ago on Star Trek? Let me think about this statement…. Okay, so Star Trek did episodes about suicide bombers, the occupation of Iraq, what happens to collaborators–a main character on Star Trek would never send young men and women out as suicide bombers, nor would a Star Trek character execute another character because he thought that character was collaborating with the “enemy”. Star trek is too sanitized. Sorry fanboys and fangirls, but Battlestar Galactica is superior to Star Trek in every way. It takes risks. It has balls, great writing and great acting.
The REAL Adama is dead! Battlestar Galactica died with him, IMO. The new one is ok, if you like a soap opera in space. I often do, but not to the extent that this has become.
You obviously don’t like good writing, Jim J. Battlestar won a Peabody Award for crying out loud. When did Star Trek ever win one? Oh, I remember: Never.
Battlestar is far superior to Star Trek and this is coming from a big fan of Star Trek - i don’t think i could have worded anything better than what Adama said about BSG other than that i agree with all of it! BSG does have balls, Star Trek does not - it is too clinical and clean cut - no one does any wrong - BORING!!!!!!!! lets hope this next trek has balls and guts and for god sake humans with feelings and flaws!
#26 Actually, The Next Generation has won a Peabody Award.
the new Galactica was a dog(Was, because it’s cancelled)it never took off because it spent too much time biting it’s own ass. What a wasted property.No villainous Baltar ,just a wormey sad loser.No real Cylons or Cylon empire,no mechanised threat.Just some sad recirculating story about a sexually needey wormey Baltar.Yeech.I had to spray my TV with Lysol.
#29 - What planet are you on? Battlestar was renewed for a 4th season. It’s not cancelled. And if you want the old Sci Fi cliched mechanized threat go watch the Terminator movies. Battlestar is far more thoughtful. You have no idea what you are talking about.
Is Rosario Dawson related to Roxanne Dawson?
To #28 - I stand corrected. You are right. However, Star Trek TNG won for the first season episode “The Big Goodbye” while Battlestar won as an entire series.. from the Peabody website:
Year: 2005
Title: Battlestar Galactica (SCI FI)
Battlestar Galactica is not just another apocalyptic vision of the future but an intense drama that poses provocative questions regarding religion, politics, sex and what it truly means to be “human.” The saga is set in motion when Cylon robots revolt against their creators with a devastating series of nuclear attacks. What`s left of the human race, fewer than 50,000 refugees, roam the universe in a fleet led by the spacecraft Galactica. They must re-imagine their society even as they search for a new home. This dramatic premise, coupled with the threat from a new form of humanoid Cylons, affords diverse narrative and philosophical possibilities. Writers Ronald D. Moore, Toni Graphia, David Weddle, Bradley Thompson, Carla Robinson, Jeff Vlaming, Michael Angeli, and David Eick take full advantage to give us plotlines that are deeply personal and relatable, while never compromising their affinity and passion for science fiction. Moore, Graphia, and Eick are the executive producers. Harvey Frand is the producer. Directors Michael Rymer, Marita Grabiak, Allan Kroeker, Rod Hardy, Sergio Mimica-Gezzan, Robert Young, Brad Turner, Edward James Olmos, Jeff Woolnough, and Jonas Pate dazzle us, giving us a show that captivates on multiple levels. The cast includes Olmos, Mary McDonnell, Katee Sackhoff, Jamie Bamber, James Callis, Tricia Helfer, and Grace Park. For pushing the limits of science fiction and making it accessible to all, Battlestar Galactica receives a Peabody Award.
Year: 1987
Title: Star Trek: The Next Generation - The Big Good-Bye
“Star Trek†has been part of the American television fabric for more than two decades. An attempt to make “Star Trek: The Next Generation†life up to the considerable reputation of the original was complicated by the fact that it would appear, not on the networks, but in first-run syndication. Rather than give in to the usual realities of “first-run†and produce a low budget, but profitable program, the producers chose instead to opt for the highest quality in writing, décor, acting, and, indeed, all facets of the production. In doing so, they have set a new standard of quality for first-run syndication and this is exemplified in the episode “The Big Good-Bye.†The Peabody Board has chosen to honor that episode and, in doing so, challenge the broadcast industry to provide the syndication market with programs of the highest quality. A Peabody to “Star Trek: The Next Generation – The Big Good-Bye.â€
Battlestar Whinica.A strung-out Baltar(supposedly the chief villian) wanders aimlessly through meandering storyline after storyline in search of his blonde muse as cameras shakily record his circular progress..boring,not entertaining,gave up on it
# 30: He was obviously referring to the ORIGINAL Battlestar Galatica not the cut and dry version of today. Though in all honesty the original was way too sappy for its own good it did have some good spots that the new one doesn’t.
Too bad they can’t (won’t) incorporate both the winning elements of both versions into a better show - the old show had flash and heart yet was brought down because it was repetitive - medicore and sappy a lot of the time. Bring the best of both versions together to make it that much better.
re: 24 Adama
“Star trek is too sanitized.”
Too sanitized….no, but Kirk and crew, (especially Spock) vigorously wash behind their ears each and every day. And that’s good advice for you, too, mister!
The whole “flawed hero” thing does not interest me. What is wrong with having virtuous heroes to aspire to?
And what is wrong with bolting down the camera and focusing on something for more than one second…or using some light occasionally?
29. J L - April 9, 2007
“the new Galactica was a dog(Was, because it’s cancelled)…”
Again: Get your facts straight. The 4th season starts shooting in May.
Your facts are clearly wrong, and since you haven’t watched the show in a while (did it made you think too much and hurt your little brain?) you have no basis whatsoever to pass judgement on it. Have you seen the third season? Did you bother to watch the episodes: Occupation, Precipice, Exodus parts 1 and 2, Collaborators, Torn… Come talk to me after you haved watched these.
#35 Then you must hate Hamlet, The Odyssey, and tons of literature and film out there…
#36 I don’t watch loser TV shows for the reasons I’ve stated.simpleton.
The thing that’s started to annoy me about BSG actual one of many things that annoy me about BSG is that everyone’s a Cylon it’s getting silly.
re:37. Adama
Pretty much. Especially things being currently produced.
#39 - Don’t talk to me about silly, ObiWan - besides, there are 12 human-looking Cylon models… that means not EVERYONE is a Cylon. Do the math.
#38 J L The fact that you have resorted to name calling instead of intelligent discourse further erodes your credibilty as someone who has an opinion worth listening to. Grow up.
Wow, look at the mess I caused. I seem to b good at that lately, unintentionally. Yikes, sorry about that! I was juust stating that I liked the original better. As much as I like E.J. Olmos (best actor in the show), I still liked Lorne Greene better. As much as I enjoyed new fangled Galactica when it first came out, it has just gotten too weird for me.
Frankly, a lot of NEW Galactica people who have been fans have been telling me that this season has been a disappointment, overall. Many are starting to tire of it all. Old Galactica never had a chance because even though the ratings were decent, it just cost ABC too much.
I never said anywhere that new Galactica didn’t have good writing or was a lame show. All I said was that it had become too much of a “soap opera in space” for ME. Does that automatically mean the writing is bad or that it isn’t worth watching???? No, it just means that for my personal taste-it’s getting to be too much.
One thing that bugs me about these new Galactica fans, you are practically rabid if anyone even makes a passing comment that you think might be the least bit negative about the show. I didn’t say, “You obviously don’t like good writing, or, Star Trek does have balls, new Galactica does not .” I say a tiny thing about Adama and Galactica and people come unglued and start ripping Trek, on a Trek site.
IMO, PATHETIC!!!!! Chill out!
#40 - In other words, you don’t like to be challenged. You prefer Superman, the square jawed hero who is does nothing wrong and is perfect in everyway (yawn….) than Batman the hero who has depth and is interesting… Well, that’s your prerogative. Thank you for having a civil discourse with me unlike other’s on this site. Have a good day.
I apologize to everyone, if R. Dawson likes both, good for her. I do, too. I just haven’t been able to get into the direction Galactica has gone lately. Just an opinion, not mean tto make people name call and get into the “my dad can beat up your dad” debate!
back to the topic,Rosario would be wasted as Uhura,she should play a more dynamic and sexier role.
I’ve always thought Rosario Dawson kicked ass as an actress (25th Hour esp). She’s hotness and way cool all wrapped up into one. But to actually hear her say that she watches Star Trek is like the icing on the cake.
Rosario Dawson, you gotta put me on.
“I’m Rick James, p’tagh”
Ahhh hell… there’s a Trek/Battlestar bar fight goin on! Rosario Dawson was hot on MIB II and would be out of this world in the trek movie as either Uhura or for alternate casting of Nurse Chapel.
As for Battlestar vs trek. Battlestar is beyond verse in greatness and in no way can be compared to a soap opera or star trek. While Battlestar is a great drama that takes place in outerspace, there is very little true sci fi writing in the show. Trek on the other hand had much-much better sci-fi writing, but the drama was weak. The characters were to sterile to be believable. DS9 came the closest to introducing dualities to its characters or even a sense of desperation.
Trek & Battlestar are both necessary viewing, but for different reasons and the shows can be in no way compared. However, TOS needs to be re-imagined and relaunched for TV with the original characters. Taking a few lessons from Battlestar would make these new adventures for Kirk and crew a stellar event for sure. Sci-fi channel… are you listening… because yours is the only network that could bring back trek in the proper way.
Someone still watches Conan?
If you think Star Trek is to clean then you should go watch the episodes in the Pale of Moonlight, Damage, and a few others.
Oh wait. That isn’t Klingon. It’s Spanish! That girl is ingenious.
Means about the same thing, though.
41 your panyhose are too tight.They re cutting off the circulation to YOUR little brain.
I sense a conspiracy in the original shows of Star Trek and Battlestar Galactica. The star of each show was William Shatner and Lorne Greene, both Canadian and each wearing a “rug” at the time of the initial broadcast. Now, years later, Shatner wears a much better “piece” and what of Greene? Oh yeah, he’s dead Jim! Somebody dig him up and see what he’s got adorning his dome! If it looks good, then the conspiracy continues! Coincidence? I think not!! Bwahahahaha…….
#45: “wasted”?
Uhura as played by Nichelle N is more dynamic and sexier than Rosario ever dreamed about being. Uhura was a GODDESS.
#54 “Uhura was a GODDESS”
Um, yeah, well….o.k. Hey, careful you don’t trip over your white cane and bump into your “seeing-eye” dog. Whoa!!
Rosario or Beyonce as Uhura would do nicely for me!
ZtoA-Agreed, drama is a better word. Galactica is a drama with SciFi elements and Trek is SciFi with drama elements. I still think Trek does better SciFi and Galactica does better drama, IMO!
Both Rosario Dawson and her brother Jesse L Martin from “Law & Order” would be great on Star Trek.
#55: Yes, I did say goddess. Here is my proof:
http://goofyblog.net/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/uhura.jpg
Bony Rosario couldn’t match her face or figure in any way.
I love this shot… I never saw it on the series, though.
http://inpayne.com/temp/uhura_panties_034.jpg
But even a blind man with white cqne could run it over Uhura’s pics and see she was finefinefine.
# 24. All the things you mentioned on BSG, to include suiside bombing and executing colaberaters was in fact done on Star Trek. The best trek of all in fact. DS9. There was a great episode were Odo investigates a murder case he never solved only to discover that the murderer was in fact Maj. Kira. who was not prosacuted because her govermnent at the time ordered her to kill one of her own people for colaberating with the cardasians. So yes. Trek did it first.
#58, 59 “Uhura…she was finefinefine”
Hey, whatever floats your boat! Arguing over whether Uhura was fine is a fine point indeed! To each their own. All I know is that if I were shipwrecked on a desert island, and could pick my companion, Rosario Dawson is looking MIGHTY FINE to me! It’s all subjective isn’t it?
56 - I’m seeing Uhura as twins. Beyonce AND Rosario. (Maybe they’re twins like I, Mudd… or maybe they’re twins like Georgia of the Jungle. Who cares… it’s twice the Uhura!)
I personally love both series, btw. I really don’t see why this universe ain’t big enough fer the both of em. For the BSG fans, don’t miss the gag reel on Geekmonthly.com. (Another shout out, Anthony!) It’s one of the funniest I’ve ever seen. Meanwhile, when are we gonna get some serious comparisons between Trek and Time Tunnel?
I don’t think it would be a waste to cast Rosario as Uhura. The stories don’t have to be written around Shatner-Nimoy-Kelley anymore. For all we know, Uhura could be a main character in this movie. This movie could be about how she got pulled out of a nasty situation by Lieutenant Kirk who inspired her to enroll in starfleet. Written the right way this could be a strong element in a script. You can build lots of action such a premise. Most movie these days are built around less.
Firefly is better than all. Battlestar and Trek included.
J L, you have stepped over the line by name calling here.
#64 “Lieutenant Kirk who inspired (Uhura) to enroll in starfleet”
Yeah, and have the conversation take place after rolling around in the sack together! “Hailing frequencies…uh…uh…OPEN, sir!!”
re: #66
I sense a bolt from the blue coming into someone’s life….
Overall… dam, what happened?… Lots of sniping today.
I think the second word she said was- PUCHPA E’ (POOCHPAH EH’). Which means restroom. Not sure though… If she said that word, that is indeed what it means. Hope this helps.
I would be OK with Rosario Dawson but not Beyonce as Uhura. I’m not too fond of Actors starting out as singers. I can say the same with actors trying out the transition as singers. Their are a allot of celebrities that want to be in Star Trek because they are fans. Fans like us. For them it really is a dream which is more possible. . The Interview didn’t say she will be or wont be involved in the new movie. Not much of a news break but their are a lot of celebrities as fans.
Tell you truth I consider each series including Trek separate. I let them live. lol. The constincy has not been pretty much there anyway. Admittedly to various degrees yes. Their are episodes of each show i will watch. Some I will never watch again In my opinion I like Star Trek (TOS) more. I don’t consider myself a rabid fan of other Sci Fi shows but I do enjoy them. I go in spurts with whatever show.. Its just entertainment.
How many shows over the decades have been trumpeted as the new one that bests Star Trek? I remember all this hype starting way back with “Space 1999″ leaving Trek in the dust.
In a few years BSG, like Space 1999, etc, will be just another trivia question. Let the BSG fans have their say. They should enjoy their 15 minutes of fame.
Star Trek exists, has existed, on its own plane. It is not sanitized; it gives us something to aspire to. It points the way. And that is why it endures.
#71 - Brain, brain… What is brain??
Didn’t Orson Welles say that?
#72-
Well, nothing’s perfect.
That said, let’s see who quotes BSG, positively or negatively, 40 years later.
Well said, Mr. Seven!!!
#74 Oh you gotta be Frakking kidding me!
Call me cynical, but she’s hustling for an audition on the new Star Trek movie.
A distinct possibility.
i doubt it…she is just a geek.
btw this video is the #11 most viewed video on YouTube today, and #3 most linked
in the new Rolling Stone(with her and Rose McGowan on the cover) it says she walks around with JLA comics and knows plot details of Voyager episodes.
First, Mira Sorvino revealed herself to be a knowledgeable Trekkie on the Conan O’Brien Show… now Rosario Dawson! Bring on the rest of the beautiful female Trekkies!
“beautiful female Trekkies!”
Boy, there’s a phrase you don’t hear every day! Sheeesh!!!
Rosario Dawson as Uhura, Mira Sorvino as Janice Rand!
Or maybe not.
If they are going to show when Kirk first takes over the Enterprise, I guess we will need to see Pike’s crew. Bones Boyce: John Glover.
Gary Seven (#74): I’ve included the various forms of the work “frak” in my vocabulary since the ORIGINAL Battlestar Galactica was on first-run network television, which was almost 30 years ago. That seems pretty close to 40 years to me.
She would make an awesome Uhura. Of course, Uhura will just have to have more to do if they were to cast Rosario..but damn…she’d be good in that role!
Wow, I think the way you like, CD!!!! lol
Bullshit. She is not. *draws poser on her picture*
Ooops I mean *writes POSER on her picture*
^#35
Excuse me for the lateness of this one. Whilst there is nothing wrong with having virtuous heroes to aspire to it can make for quite facile characterisation, and a much weaker hero. Consider the bucket of awesome that is Wrath of Khan, and its portrayal of Kirk versus Khan. Particularly how Nicholas Meyer wrote Kirk, (cited in Memory-Alpha’s article on STII).
“Initially, producer Harve Bennett was resistant to the idea that Kirk could do anything ‘bad’, yet Meyer won him over; in fact, he believed the story needed Kirk to have flaws. “There’s a distinction to be made between heroes and gods,” he explained, “which I think we sometimes get confused about. […] let me explain my theory of heroism. If a man jumps into a raging torrent to save a drowning child, he performs an heroic act. If the same man jumps into the same torrent to save the same child, but does so with a ball and chain attached to his leg, he’s not less heroic; he’s more heroic. “If you look at the heroes of antiquity and myth, they all have flaws. It’s something that they have to overcome; their flaws are something that they have to act in spite of. The challenge is not to defy your fate, but to endure it. That is heroic.”
Furthermore, to the people who say that BSG will be a distant memory in a few years - i say you’re exactly right. Look at Buffy, has quite faded out of most people’s conversations. Star Trek endures, but BSG is the better series for right now - it lives, and it gets ratings that have been comparable to the death throes of Enterprise, despite being on cable, and equal to or better than Enterprise in syndication. What is undeniable is that Star Trek endures, but you can only dispute the fact that it is fandom, and nostalgia, as much as quality that keeps it viable. In its recent incarnations - Voyager, Enterprise it was out of touch with the times, and the general public and i gather many of us who come to this site thought it stank. Kirk and company live forever, but BSG lives right now, and it shines very brightly.
it would be awesome if Rosario Dawson was in Star Trek….but I dont really think she looks like Uhura. Uhura’s face was heart shaped but Rosario has an angular face which is also longer. Personally, I think Rosario is too good looking to be Uhura.
Hey, it worked for Samuel Jackson when he happened to bring up his love for the Star Wars films on some show…next thing, he’s waving a lightsabre…
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She would look awesome with the red miniskirt and boots!